> ## Content Index > Fetch the complete content index at: https://www.bubandpop.com/llms.txt > Use this file to discover other available public pages before exploring further. # Episode 8: Reed Mathis! - URL: https://www.bubandpop.com/episode-8-reed-mathis-2/ - Published: 2026-05-25T15:31:52.000Z - Updated: 2026-07-30T20:32:40.000Z - Description: Reed Mathis on Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey, Electric Beethoven, and The Gifts of Improvising. Plus: a weekend at Music on the Mountain, the Divided Sky sober festival. - Author: Matt Hoffman - Tags: podcast, bassist Our guest this week is Reed Mathis. This episode is the culmination (to date) of a series of conversations he and I have had in fits and starts over the last 2 1/2 years or so. He's among the headiest, heaviest musicians I know, and it was great to talk with him, as is always the case. [Episode 8: Reed MathisBub & Pop | Episode 8: Reed Mathis (recorded May 9, 2026) Join music journalist Matt Hoffman for a conversation with Reed Mathis, a pillar of the jamband community and (IMHO) modern philosopher who expresses his point of view through music. We discuss his forthcoming shows with Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey, his![](https://static.ghost.org/v5.0.0/images/link-icon.svg)Bub & PopMatt Hoffman![](https://storage.ghost.io/c/96/b9/96b93614-6cf3-4171-9c3d-fd372ff27e5a/content/images/size/w1200/2026/05/Reed-Mathis-Thumbnail-Landscape-Black-Background.png)](https://www.bubandpop.com/episode-8-reed-mathis) The casual jam band fan may know Reed as the bass player from [Billy & the Kids](https://www.billkreutzmann.com/billy-and-the-kids?ref=bubandpop.com), a Bill Kreutzmann project featuring Mathis, Aron Magner (Disco Biscuits, SPAGA) and Tom Hamilton (JRAD). Others may know him as that guy who did that Beethoven project. . . . (His Electric Beethoven project released an excellent album, [*Beathoven*](https://royalpotatofamily.com/product/reed-mathis-electric-beethoven/?ref=bubandpop.com), and an even more impressive live recording, [*Maps We Found in the Ground*](https://open.spotify.com/album/2K17EDELjrMj63aLJjhCG6?ref=bubandpop.com), where his live band performed over Beethoven symphonies.) Others may be familiar with his excellent Osiris Media podcast, [*The Gifts of Improvising*](https://www.osirispod.com/podcasts/the-gifts-of-improvising/?ref=bubandpop.com), and the accompanying set of Bob Dylan song interpretations he put together with Jay Lane, Adam Macdougall, [Giulio Xavier Cetto (the Jazz Thug)](https://www.notreble.com/buzz/2026/04/04/the-jazz-thug-giulio-xavier-cetto-shows-radical-resilience-when-life-throws-the-kitchen-sink/?ref=bubandpop.com), Elliot Peck, and Natalie Cressman. (Playlists here – [with vocals](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4vI-1E523QZxQ9vkSda1tgBeEfm8AjQ6&ref=bubandpop.com) and [instrumental only](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4vI-1E523QZyJNZ6pr8PyGEjg2FSzbRY&ref=bubandpop.com).) And yet others may know him from his work with revolutionary first band, [Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey](http://jfjo.com/?ref=bubandpop.com). (He's also put out some excellent work under his own name, including last year's [*The Somnia Variations*](https://glidemagazine.com/308792/reed-mathis-vibes-out-with-mellow-introspective-the-somnia-variations-album-review/?ref=bubandpop.com).) JFJO is playing shows this week in [San Francisco](https://wl.eventim.us/event/an-evening-with-jacob-fred-jazz-odyssey/688222?afflky=TheChapel&ref=bubandpop.com) and [Santa Cruz](https://www.ticketweb.com/event/folkyeah-presents-jacob-fred-the-crepe-place-tickets/14860393?utm%5Fmedium=affiliate&pl=thecrepeplace&irgwc=1&afsrc=1&clickid=W6FTnDwOXxyZTanVP%3ARa-1KeUkuRJfTluyXN1I0&camefrom=CFC%5FBUYAT%5F219208&impradid=219208&REFERRAL%5FID=tmfeedbuyat219208&wt.mc%5Fid=aff%5FBUYAT%5F219208&utm%5Fsource=219208-Bandsintown&impradname=Bandsintown&ircid=4272). I've known of Reed for decades, and we first connected after the Unlimited Devotion fundraiser shows in 2024\. (I reviewed the show for [*JamBase*](https://www.jambase.com/article/unlimited-devotion-grateful-dead-ardmore-music-hall-2024-review-photos-video?ref=bubandpop.com).) He's incredibly thoughtful, as a musician and as a human more generally, and I absolutely love talking with him and letting him cook, as he did during this conversation. We hope you enjoy listening to the conversation as much as I enjoyed having it! --- I was in Ludlow, VT, this past weekend for [Music on the Mountain](https://musiconthemtn.com/?ref=bubandpop.com), the Divided Sky Foundation sober only festival. (Keep an eye out for my forthcoming review in *Relix*.) I had some great conversations that we plan to release in the coming weeks, all under the theme of mental health awareness. (May is [Mental Health Awareness Month](https://www.nami.org/stay-connected/events/awareness-events/mental-health-awareness-month/?ref=bubandpop.com), and Producer Tedd and I want to do our part to lend support.) I also had an excellent conversation this week with Burlington-based guitarist and songwriter, [Bob Wagner](https://bobwagner.art/?ref=bubandpop.com), and will be turning that into a piece for *Relix/Jambands.com*. (Bob's solo debut, [*I've Been Down*](https://royalpotatofamily.com/product/bob-wagner-ive-been-down/?ref=bubandpop.com), is available for preorder with Royal Potato Family, the same record label where Reed releases his music.) --- If you like the Bub & Pop Podcast, check out [Attendance Bias](http://attendancebias.buzzsprout.com/?ref=bubandpop.com), hosted by my dear old friend, Brian Weinstein. He leads conversations about Phish shows – a simple concept that leads to multifaceted conversations that are a lot of fun. (He and I spoke a couple of years ago about my phirst show, 12/2/97 – you can find that episode [here](https://attendancebias.buzzsprout.com/1241795/episodes/15259044-12-2-97-the-spectrum-w-matt-hoffman?ref=bubandpop.com).)